Hozzászólás: Richard Field: Ki pénzeli a szélsőjobbot? http://nepszava.com/2012/05/velemeny/richard-field-ki-penzeli-a-szelsojobbot.html Amerikai.com Blogs Mon, 14 Apr 2014 22:15:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 miaszösz http://nepszava.com/2012/05/velemeny/richard-field-ki-penzeli-a-szelsojobbot.html/comment-page-1#comment-185234 miaszösz Sat, 02 Jun 2012 06:55:57 +0000 http://nepszava.com/?p=105618#comment-185234 Ha ez igaz, akkor örülülök, hogy Izrael érdeklödik kicsiny hazank irant. Jôhet a Mossad! Ha ez igaz, akkor örülülök, hogy Izrael érdeklödik kicsiny hazank irant. Jôhet a Mossad!

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miaszösz http://nepszava.com/2012/05/velemeny/richard-field-ki-penzeli-a-szelsojobbot.html/comment-page-1#comment-185233 miaszösz Sat, 02 Jun 2012 06:54:44 +0000 http://nepszava.com/?p=105618#comment-185233 The “Flame” malware: Hungary as a target?… … ……… I am anything but a computer guru. Just the opposite. I know only what is necessary to do everyday computer chores. If anything terribly complicated comes up, I cry for help. That’s why this post is, at least in part, out of my comfort zone because it deals with the spy malware known as Flame. I have to admit that I never heard of Flame until about three days ago when I was watching National Public Television’s Newshour and Jeffrey Brown, one of the regulars on the show, had a conversation with two experts on computer technology and national security matters. Flame is powerful malware used for espionage. It is capable of taking computer screen-shots, logging keystrokes, and even listening in on Skype. Iran reported that several of the country’s important computers, especially those related to its oil industry, had been affected, but Flame was discovered in several other Middle Eastern countries as well. When I heard Skype mentioned as one of the vehicles of intelligence gathering via Flame, I made a crack about a Skype conversation I just had with my cousin. “They are not targeting Hungary, for Pete’s sake,” my friend said. I answered that I was only joking. At this point, one of the guests on the show from the Institute for Law, Science and Global Security at Georgetown University began to list the countries affected: Iran, Israel, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Syria, Egypt, and Hungary. Well, at this point, we stopped laughing. The most sophisticated cyber weapon ever used / redorbit.com From the rest of the conversation it became clear that although computer analysts know how many computers were affected by Flame they don’t know the identity of the targets. They might be government agencies or private companies. The spying itself may come from governments or large corporations. Kaspersky Lab, which specializes in computer virus prevention, identified 189 attacks in Iran, 98 in the West Bank, 32 in Sudan, 30 in Syria and a few in Saudi Arabia, Libya and Egypt. I found no details on Hungary but from a map attached to an article on Flame in the Hungarian edition of Computer World the Hungarian infections, judging from the color assigned to the country, must be sizable. Where do the attacks come from? According to Fox News, “one of the leading candidates is Israel.” Apparently Israeli Vice Premier Moshe Ya’alon hinted to a local radio station the other day that his country was responsible for Flame. But if that is the case, why would Israel be interested in Hungarian computers when most of the attacks are directed toward Tehran and the Middle East? I can think of a couple of reasons. One is the alleged connection between Iran and Jobbik, the Hungarian neo-Nazi party. Jobbik because of its anti-Semitism is a sworn enemy of Israel; the party supports the Palestinian cause. Jobbik also has ties to countries that are high on international terrorist watch lists. Gábor Vona, for example, visited Yemen already in 2003, shortly after he organized Jobbik. The party has close relations with the Iranian government. Just before the 2010 elections Vona demanded Iranian observers. He promised that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and Jobbik’s paramilitary Hungarian Guard together would watch over the purity of the Hungarian elections. What a lovely combination! Suspicion of Iranian money in support of Jobbik lingers on. Jobbik ran a very expensive election campaign, allegedly from private donations. Naturally, no one believes this. Even prior to the appearance of Jobbik on the Hungarian political scene the Hungarian extreme right received money from Sadam Hussein’s Iraq. György Lázár, who wrote about the Hungarian right’s Middle Eastern connections in Élet és Irodalom a few years back, is convinced that Muslim extremists’ connections to the Hungarian right has had a long history and that the relationship is still flourishing. But perhaps there might be another reason. I suspect that Israel is even suspicious of the Orbán government’s real intentions with respect to the Arab world. Viktor Orbán during his first term as prime minister made several trips to various Arab countries and promised much closer relations between Hungary and the Arab nations. I wrote about this more than a year ago and predicted that this trend was going to continue during the second Orbán government. As indeed it has. Moreover, although Israel is not saying much, I am sure that Israeli politicians are watching with apprehension the growing anti-Semitism in Hungary, which the Orbán government is not exactly fighting with full vigor. The rehabilitation of anti-Semitic writers whose activities between the two world wars inflamed public opinion against the country’s Jewish population cannot be to Israel’s liking either. These were my thoughts when I heard Hungary being mentioned along with Iran, Saudi Arabia, the West Bank, and Sudan. An odd-man out. Or is it? http://hungarianspectrum.wordpress.com/2012/06/01/the-flame-malware-hungary-as-a-target/ The “Flame” malware: Hungary as a target?…
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I am anything but a computer guru. Just the opposite. I know only what is necessary to do everyday computer chores. If anything terribly complicated comes up, I cry for help. That’s why this post is, at least in part, out of my comfort zone because it deals with the spy malware known as Flame.

I have to admit that I never heard of Flame until about three days ago when I was watching National Public Television’s Newshour and Jeffrey Brown, one of the regulars on the show, had a conversation with two experts on computer technology and national security matters.

Flame is powerful malware used for espionage. It is capable of taking computer screen-shots, logging keystrokes, and even listening in on Skype. Iran reported that several of the country’s important computers, especially those related to its oil industry, had been affected, but Flame was discovered in several other Middle Eastern countries as well.

When I heard Skype mentioned as one of the vehicles of intelligence gathering via Flame, I made a crack about a Skype conversation I just had with my cousin. “They are not targeting Hungary, for Pete’s sake,” my friend said. I answered that I was only joking.

At this point, one of the guests on the show from the Institute for Law, Science and Global Security at Georgetown University began to list the countries affected: Iran, Israel, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Syria, Egypt, and Hungary. Well, at this point, we stopped laughing.

The most sophisticated cyber weapon ever used / redorbit.com
From the rest of the conversation it became clear that although computer analysts know how many computers were affected by Flame they don’t know the identity of the targets. They might be government agencies or private companies. The spying itself may come from governments or large corporations. Kaspersky Lab, which specializes in computer virus prevention, identified 189 attacks in Iran, 98 in the West Bank, 32 in Sudan, 30 in Syria and a few in Saudi Arabia, Libya and Egypt. I found no details on Hungary but from a map attached to an article on Flame in the Hungarian edition of Computer World the Hungarian infections, judging from the color assigned to the country, must be sizable.

Where do the attacks come from? According to Fox News, “one of the leading candidates is Israel.” Apparently Israeli Vice Premier Moshe Ya’alon hinted to a local radio station the other day that his country was responsible for Flame. But if that is the case, why would Israel be interested in Hungarian computers when most of the attacks are directed toward Tehran and the Middle East?

I can think of a couple of reasons. One is the alleged connection between Iran and Jobbik, the Hungarian neo-Nazi party. Jobbik because of its anti-Semitism is a sworn enemy of Israel; the party supports the Palestinian cause. Jobbik also has ties to countries that are high on international terrorist watch lists. Gábor Vona, for example, visited Yemen already in 2003, shortly after he organized Jobbik. The party has close relations with the Iranian government. Just before the 2010 elections Vona demanded Iranian observers. He promised that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and Jobbik’s paramilitary Hungarian Guard together would watch over the purity of the Hungarian elections. What a lovely combination!

Suspicion of Iranian money in support of Jobbik lingers on. Jobbik ran a very expensive election campaign, allegedly from private donations. Naturally, no one believes this. Even prior to the appearance of Jobbik on the Hungarian political scene the Hungarian extreme right received money from Sadam Hussein’s Iraq. György Lázár, who wrote about the Hungarian right’s Middle Eastern connections in Élet és Irodalom a few years back, is convinced that Muslim extremists’ connections to the Hungarian right has had a long history and that the relationship is still flourishing.

But perhaps there might be another reason. I suspect that Israel is even suspicious of the Orbán government’s real intentions with respect to the Arab world. Viktor Orbán during his first term as prime minister made several trips to various Arab countries and promised much closer relations between Hungary and the Arab nations. I wrote about this more than a year ago and predicted that this trend was going to continue during the second Orbán government. As indeed it has.

Moreover, although Israel is not saying much, I am sure that Israeli politicians are watching with apprehension the growing anti-Semitism in Hungary, which the Orbán government is not exactly fighting with full vigor. The rehabilitation of anti-Semitic writers whose activities between the two world wars inflamed public opinion against the country’s Jewish population cannot be to Israel’s liking either.

These were my thoughts when I heard Hungary being mentioned along with Iran, Saudi Arabia, the West Bank, and Sudan. An odd-man out. Or is it?
http://hungarianspectrum.wordpress.com/2012/06/01/the-flame-malware-hungary-as-a-target/

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hunyadi http://nepszava.com/2012/05/velemeny/richard-field-ki-penzeli-a-szelsojobbot.html/comment-page-1#comment-185232 hunyadi Sat, 02 Jun 2012 06:41:27 +0000 http://nepszava.com/?p=105618#comment-185232 jobbikbűnözés 2012. május 31. csütörtök 22:23 . Megdöbbentő a Jobbik–Fidesz összefonódás az általad közölt Magyar-Irán Baráti Tagozat listájában. . Ellátogattam a facebook oldaladra: Jobbikbűnözés-nyilasbűnözés – https://www.facebook.com/pages/Jobbikb%C5%B1n%C3%B6z%C3%A9s-nyilasb%C5%B1n%C3%B6z%C3%A9s/309819149069353 . Félelmetes a világ amit feltársz. Hozzászólni vagy lájkolni sem merek ott... jobbikbűnözés
2012. május 31. csütörtök 22:23
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Megdöbbentő a Jobbik–Fidesz összefonódás az általad közölt Magyar-Irán Baráti Tagozat listájában.
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Ellátogattam a facebook oldaladra: Jobbikbűnözés-nyilasbűnözés –
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Jobbikb%C5%B1n%C3%B6z%C3%A9s-nyilasb%C5%B1n%C3%B6z%C3%A9s/309819149069353
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Félelmetes a világ amit feltársz. Hozzászólni vagy lájkolni sem merek ott…

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maxval http://nepszava.com/2012/05/velemeny/richard-field-ki-penzeli-a-szelsojobbot.html/comment-page-1#comment-184831 maxval Fri, 01 Jun 2012 07:27:40 +0000 http://nepszava.com/?p=105618#comment-184831 gondolkodo: Pontosan, a zsidó nemzetiség/származés és a nem.zsidó vallás nem zárja ki egymást. Miért zárná ki? A keresztény egyház szinte összes kezdeti vezetője zsidó nemzetiségű volt! gondolkodo:

Pontosan, a zsidó nemzetiség/származés és a nem.zsidó vallás nem zárja ki egymást. Miért zárná ki? A keresztény egyház szinte összes kezdeti vezetője zsidó nemzetiségű volt!

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Robust Pal http://nepszava.com/2012/05/velemeny/richard-field-ki-penzeli-a-szelsojobbot.html/comment-page-1#comment-184761 Robust Pal Fri, 01 Jun 2012 03:06:22 +0000 http://nepszava.com/?p=105618#comment-184761 Karolyi atadta a hatalmat Kun Belanak mert nem tudott semmit sem csinalni. A kommunistak hetek alatt felfegyvereztek a munkassagot es egy magyar hadsereget hoztak letre. Ellere egy igazi magyar hazafi Stromfeld Aurel kerult, es a hadsereg sikeres volt. Ha a Horthysta tisztek a hazat szolgaltak volna ahelyett ,hogy elarultak volna a munkas sereget, az orszag hatara maskeppen nezne ki. Karolyi atadta a hatalmat Kun Belanak mert nem tudott semmit sem csinalni. A kommunistak hetek alatt felfegyvereztek a munkassagot es egy magyar hadsereget hoztak letre. Ellere egy igazi magyar hazafi Stromfeld Aurel kerult, es a hadsereg sikeres volt. Ha a Horthysta tisztek a hazat szolgaltak volna ahelyett ,hogy elarultak volna a munkas sereget, az orszag hatara maskeppen nezne ki.

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Robust Pal http://nepszava.com/2012/05/velemeny/richard-field-ki-penzeli-a-szelsojobbot.html/comment-page-1#comment-184760 Robust Pal Fri, 01 Jun 2012 03:04:20 +0000 http://nepszava.com/?p=105618#comment-184760 Karolyi atadta a hatalmat Kun Belanak mert nem tudott semmit sem csinalni. A kommunistak hetek alatt felfegyvereztek a munkassagot es egy magyar hadsereget hoztak letre. Ellere egy igazi magyar hazafi Stromfeld Aurel kerult, es a hadsereg sikeres volt. Ha a Horthysta tisztek a hazat szolgaltak volna ahelyett ,hogy elarultakvolna a munkas sereget, az orszag hatara maskeppen nezne ki. Karolyi atadta a hatalmat Kun Belanak mert nem tudott semmit sem csinalni. A kommunistak hetek alatt felfegyvereztek a munkassagot es egy magyar hadsereget hoztak letre. Ellere egy igazi magyar hazafi Stromfeld Aurel kerult, es a hadsereg sikeres volt. Ha a Horthysta tisztek a hazat szolgaltak volna ahelyett ,hogy elarultakvolna a munkas sereget, az orszag hatara maskeppen nezne ki.

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sammy http://nepszava.com/2012/05/velemeny/richard-field-ki-penzeli-a-szelsojobbot.html/comment-page-1#comment-184754 sammy Fri, 01 Jun 2012 01:29:18 +0000 http://nepszava.com/?p=105618#comment-184754 Dear Mr Field, Your book is highly appreciated as well as your activities in helping the course of human tights in Hungary. While your letters to these neo-nazis are very eloquent, in my opinion, however, they are a waste of time, as these individuals like zazrivecz, morvai and szegedi are far submerged in their lies, phantasies and prejudices that no logical argument could dislodge them. These type have stepped out of the framework we call humans. They only understand what they believe in - violence, and only respect fear. Nothing less, nothing more. One only have to study the not-so-remote history, namely the 1930-40s, one could see how these kind behaved then. It is a folly to believe that - if they ever got into power - they would behave any differently. Having said that, unfortunately nobody in Hungary would lift their finger when statues are defaced, flags are burned, memorials are desecrated, etc. Even in the parliament the behavior of these neo-nazis hardly resembles to be civilized. Unfortunately this aegian stable will not be cleaned up in the foreseeable future. The current government is in cohoots with them, the EU is too busy or weak to care. In spite of all this there are people like you lift their voices against this madness, but - while appreciated - is it not enough. I don't see the end of the tunnel. Yours truly Dear Mr Field,
Your book is highly appreciated as well as your activities in helping the course
of human tights in Hungary. While your letters to these neo-nazis are very eloquent, in my opinion, however, they are a waste of time, as these individuals like zazrivecz, morvai and szegedi are far submerged in their lies, phantasies and prejudices that no logical argument could dislodge them.
These type have stepped out of the framework we call humans. They only
understand what they believe in – violence, and only respect fear. Nothing
less, nothing more. One only have to study the not-so-remote history, namely
the 1930-40s, one could see how these kind behaved then. It is a folly to believe that – if they ever got into power – they would behave any differently.
Having said that, unfortunately nobody in Hungary would lift their finger when
statues are defaced, flags are burned, memorials are desecrated, etc.
Even in the parliament the behavior of these neo-nazis hardly resembles
to be civilized. Unfortunately this aegian stable will not be cleaned up in
the foreseeable future. The current government is in cohoots with them,
the EU is too busy or weak to care.
In spite of all this there are people like you lift their voices against this madness, but – while appreciated – is it not enough. I don’t see the end of the tunnel.
Yours truly

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jobbikbűnözés http://nepszava.com/2012/05/velemeny/richard-field-ki-penzeli-a-szelsojobbot.html/comment-page-1#comment-184688 jobbikbűnözés Thu, 31 May 2012 20:23:04 +0000 http://nepszava.com/?p=105618#comment-184688 Abból a pénzből nem csak a jobbiknak jut, hanem a fidesznek is! Lásd az irán-magyar baráti tagozat névsorát és a fidesz jobbikhoz közeli irányvonalát (horthy, nyírő, gömbös), retorikáját! Magyar-Irán Baráti Tagozat Elnök Gyöngyösi Márton Jobbik Alelnök Dr. Gruber Attila Fidesz Tag Babák Mihály Fidesz Dankó Béla Fidesz Egyed Zsolt Jobbik Dr. Gaudi-Nagy Tamás Jobbik Gulyás Dénes Fidesz Dr. Gyüre Csaba Jobbik Hegedűs Lorántné Jobbik Hegedűs Tamás Jobbik Kepli Lajos Jobbik Dr. Kiss Sándor Jobbik Dr. Lenhardt Balázs Jobbik Mirkóczki Ádám Jobbik Németh Zsolt Jobbik Pánczél Károly Fidesz Pogácsás Tibor Fidesz Potápi Árpád János Fidesz Rónaszékiné Keresztes Monika Fidesz Dr. Selmeczi Gabriella Fidesz Szabó Gábor Jobbik Szilágyi György Jobbik Dr. Szűcs Lajos Fidesz Vágó Sebestyén Jobbik Vona Gábor Jobbik Wittner Mária Fidesz Zagyva György Gyula Jobbik Abból a pénzből nem csak a jobbiknak jut, hanem a fidesznek is! Lásd az irán-magyar baráti tagozat névsorát és a fidesz jobbikhoz közeli irányvonalát (horthy, nyírő, gömbös), retorikáját!

Magyar-Irán Baráti Tagozat

Elnök Gyöngyösi Márton Jobbik
Alelnök Dr. Gruber Attila Fidesz
Tag Babák Mihály Fidesz
Dankó Béla Fidesz
Egyed Zsolt Jobbik
Dr. Gaudi-Nagy Tamás Jobbik
Gulyás Dénes Fidesz
Dr. Gyüre Csaba Jobbik
Hegedűs Lorántné Jobbik
Hegedűs Tamás Jobbik
Kepli Lajos Jobbik
Dr. Kiss Sándor Jobbik
Dr. Lenhardt Balázs Jobbik
Mirkóczki Ádám Jobbik
Németh Zsolt Jobbik
Pánczél Károly Fidesz
Pogácsás Tibor Fidesz
Potápi Árpád János Fidesz
Rónaszékiné Keresztes Monika Fidesz
Dr. Selmeczi Gabriella Fidesz
Szabó Gábor Jobbik
Szilágyi György Jobbik
Dr. Szűcs Lajos Fidesz
Vágó Sebestyén Jobbik
Vona Gábor Jobbik
Wittner Mária Fidesz
Zagyva György Gyula Jobbik

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figyelő http://nepszava.com/2012/05/velemeny/richard-field-ki-penzeli-a-szelsojobbot.html/comment-page-1#comment-184637 figyelő Thu, 31 May 2012 17:39:18 +0000 http://nepszava.com/?p=105618#comment-184637 Miért csak Irán? A világban szerteszét élő magyar-utódok között is sok támogatója akad a jobbik egyre látványosabb magyarkodásának, eszmerendszerének. Azért is, mert a magyar kormány (politikai térnyerés igyekezetében) nem zárkózik el határozottan a jobbiktól. A kormány kettős beszéde, idol választása, magatartása is erősíti a karakteresebben (kevés kivétellel ugyanazt) kommunikáló jobbikot (az unión kívül is van élet, nem hagyjuk megalázni magunkat stb.). Gondolom az új választási törvény e tekintetben is meghozza a gyümölcsét – nem vagyok biztos benne, hogy a fityusz ügyét fogja szolgálni –, amelynek árát természetesen mi fizetjük. Miért csak Irán? A világban szerteszét élő magyar-utódok között is sok támogatója akad a jobbik egyre látványosabb magyarkodásának, eszmerendszerének. Azért is, mert a magyar kormány (politikai térnyerés igyekezetében) nem zárkózik el határozottan a jobbiktól.
A kormány kettős beszéde, idol választása, magatartása is erősíti a karakteresebben (kevés kivétellel ugyanazt) kommunikáló jobbikot (az unión kívül is van élet, nem hagyjuk megalázni magunkat stb.).
Gondolom az új választási törvény e tekintetben is meghozza a gyümölcsét – nem vagyok biztos benne, hogy a fityusz ügyét fogja szolgálni –, amelynek árát természetesen mi fizetjük.

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Kal http://nepszava.com/2012/05/velemeny/richard-field-ki-penzeli-a-szelsojobbot.html/comment-page-1#comment-184600 Kal Thu, 31 May 2012 14:34:04 +0000 http://nepszava.com/?p=105618#comment-184600 Nem nagyon szoktam hinni a "pletykáknak", de most aggódom. Véleményemet a blogomban foglaltam össze: http://kaleidoscope-uj.blog.hu/2012/05/25/kaleidoscope_az_ezer_szinu_vilag Nem nagyon szoktam hinni a “pletykáknak”, de most aggódom. Véleményemet a blogomban foglaltam össze: http://kaleidoscope-uj.blog.hu/2012/05/25/kaleidoscope_az_ezer_szinu_vilag

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